It is simply numbing.

I am strctly talking in terms of meditational value, paco.

I use alcohol sometimes to just be giddy and sleepy.

But it has NEVER taken me to great heights of mental relief.  In fact, it makes veterans pure morons and useless to look after themselves. Hence, pot is legal in canada so they have an option, africa. A better more strictly medicinal purpose, turdeau.